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Beeper Mini Is Back

Bug fixes and other improvements

We’ve created an updated version of Beeper Mini that fixes an issue that caused messages not to be sent or received.

You can get the update directly from beeper.com/update on your phone. We are still doing some final testing before submitting the update to the Google Play Store for distribution to all users. If you encounter any issues, you may need to uninstall and reinstall the app.

Update: The update is now live on Google Play.

We even added in a few new feature improvements: chats now open at the last unread message, and we polished the video player a bit!

Four other things to note:

  • The security and privacy of Beeper Mini is unchanged. It is still local, end-to-end encrypted on your device, as we described in our post.

  • Phone number registration is not working yet. All users must now sign in with an AppleID. Messages will be sent and received via your email address rather than phone number. We’re currently working on a fix for this.

  • We’ve made Beeper free to use. Things have been a bit chaotic, and we’re not comfortable subjecting paying users to this. As soon as things stabilize (we hope they will), we’ll look at turning on subscriptions again. If you want to keep supporting us, feel free to leave the subscription on 🙂.

  • Our Play Store ranking dropped precipitously on Friday. Leaving us a nice review there would help tremendously.

It’s been an extremely busy, tiring, exciting, and eventful week. Props to the entire Beeper team for working basically 24/7 to get Beeper Mini working again. Huge thanks to you, the Beeper and broader community, for supporting us.

What happened

Beeper Mini launched on Tuesday and rocketed to top 20 of Play Store charts. It was an instant hit. From what we can tell, Beeper Mini was the fastest growing paid Android application launch in history. In the first 48 hours, it was downloaded by more than 100,000 people.

The reason for its success is clear: Android and iPhone customers desperately want to be able to chat together with high quality images/video, encryption, emojis, typing status, read receipts, and all modern chat features. We all want a fun, easy and secure way to chat. For a glorious 3 days last week, Beeper Mini made this possible.

On Friday, we started getting reports that Beeper Cloud and Beeper Mini users could not send or receive messages. We investigated the issue and started working on a fix.

Within 24 hours, we fixed the issue for Beeper Cloud and published an update. Beeper Cloud users can now send and receive messages. It’s working exactly as it did before Friday.

Note: Beeper Cloud’s new Oct 2023 iMessage bridge never used Mac relay servers and still does not today. It uses a similar method to Beeper Mini, but runs on a cloud server.

At the same time, we took steps to deregister all phone numbers associated with Beeper Mini, and we sent push notifications to all users updating them on the situation. In hindsight, our timing was a mistake: we should have communicated to our users sooner. We’re extremely sorry for the inconvenience caused by the outage.

Today, less than 3 days later, we are publishing an update to fix Beeper Mini. Users can now sign in, send and receive messages. Beeper Mini is back.

Despite reaching out, we still have not heard anything directly from Apple.

Apple’s statement

I got a call from David Pierce over at The Verge on Saturday. Apple had sent them a statement:

At Apple, we build our products and services with industry-leading privacy and security technologies designed to give users control of their data and keep personal information safe. We took steps to protect our users by blocking techniques that exploit fake credentials in order to gain access to iMessage. These techniques posed significant risks to user security and privacy, including the potential for metadata exposure and enabling unwanted messages, spam, and phishing attacks. We will continue to make updates in the future to protect our users.

We—of course—expected a response. What we didn’t expect was 1984-esque doublespeak. The statement is complete FUD. Beeper Mini made communication between Android and iPhone users more secure. That is a fact.

Make no mistake, the changes Apple made on Friday were designed to protect the lock-in effect of iMessage. The end result is that iPhone customers have less security and privacy than before.

Before Beeper Mini, Messages app (the default chat app on iPhone) forced all iPhone customers to send unencrypted, unsecure green bubble SMS messages to Android friends, family and colleagues. Even worse, when iPhone customers added an Android phone number to an existing iMessage secure encrypted group chat, the Messages app would by default switch the entire group chat to using unencrypted, unsecure SMS. This immediately made communication between iPhone customers in the group chat less secure.

Beeper Mini fixed this problem (and many others), and made it possible for Android and iPhone customers to enjoy a secure, easy and high quality chat experience. We are working to make chat more secure, and enable consumer choice.

Many people have asked, ‘why don’t people just use Signal or WhatsApp?’. The answer is that Messages App is the default chat app for all iPhone customers. Not only is it the default, iOS makes it impossible to change the default chat app. In the US, where the majority of people have iPhones, this means that the easiest way to chat is by tapping on your friend’s name in your contact list and hitting the ‘message’ button.

We deeply object to the allegation that Beeper Mini ‘poses significant risks to user security and privacy’. This is completely untrue. As we explained above, the opposite is actually true. Beeper Mini increases the security and privacy of both Android and iPhone customers. To prove this, we published a detailed blog post about how the app keeps data secure and private. Beeper Mini is end-to-end encrypted. The underlying connection method is open source, for anyone to review.

Today, we’re taking that dedication to security and privacy even further.

  1. If Apple doubts the security and privacy of our app, we’re willing to share the entire Beeper Mini codebase with a mutually agreed upon 3rd party security research firm.

  2. If Apple insists, we would consider adding a pager emoji 📟️ to metadata on all messages sent via Beeper Mini. This would make it easy for Messages App to filter out any messages from Beeper Mini users.

At the end of the day, we are committed to building the best chat app on earth. We will continue working on that.

Eric Migicovsky and Brad Murray
Beeper cofounders


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93 responses to “Beeper Mini Is Back”

  1. DigThemLows Avatar
    DigThemLows

    keep getting 2FA error. Unsure what to do?

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    1. DigThemLows Avatar
      DigThemLows

      nevermind, unistalled the app, and re-downloaded fix. I’m up!!!

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      1. Dmerit Avatar
        Dmerit

        Worked for me!

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      2. Jason Davidson Avatar
        Jason Davidson

        Didn’t work for me

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    2. Diego Avatar
      Diego

      Force stop the app and clear the storage. This fixed the issue for me.

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      1. Jason Davidson Avatar
        Jason Davidson

        Tried this as well and still didn’t work.

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  2. Darth Avatar
    Darth

    I am also getting an authentication error.

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  3. Shayne Wissler Avatar
    Shayne Wissler

    > What we didn’t expect was 1984-esque doublespeak.

    Ha! Good one!

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  4. TJ Avatar
    TJ

    I’m not too tech savvy, so if this is a dumb question please overlook… My whole purpose of subscribing too Beeper mini was for my phone no. to be registered. If that is still an issue, the. doesn’t that mean Beeper mini isn’t really fixed?

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    1. TJ Avatar
      TJ

      I think I’ve confused all of my contacts and they are about ready to block me from all gc’s 😂

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      1. Noah Avatar
        Noah

        You’ll be fine. iMessage supports both phone numbers and email addresses. Use the email address for now to get in on group chats and when they figure out how to register your phone number again, you’ll be right as rain.

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      2. TJ Avatar
        TJ

        Thanks!

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  5. icecreamlorry Avatar
    icecreamlorry

    Oh the irony.

    Remember when Apple used to be the ones claiming to smash big brother?

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  6. Henry G Avatar
    Henry G

    Keep up the good fight!
    Love what you all are doing and will continue to support!

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  7. Ronaldo H. Avatar
    Ronaldo H.

    Really love the new app and its future…sorry things got sidetracked this weekend. I downloaded new version and it won’t let me sign-in with my Apple ID after numerous attempts. I keep getting an error (2FA submission error).

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    1. Ronaldo H. Avatar
      Ronaldo H.

      Un-installed, re-installed update and it works! Thank you!

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  8. robert cross Avatar
    robert cross

    not working. no fix. getting same error as everyone else.

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  9. TJ Avatar
    TJ

    I uninstalled and reinstalled… I’m still getting 2FA ereor

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    1. James Avatar
      James

      Same!

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    2. Yes Maam Avatar
      Yes Maam

      Mine worked after clearing data in App info. Uninstalling may not delete all app data on certain manufacturer’s handsets due to their set storage policies.

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      1. TJ Avatar
        TJ

        I tried that first with no luck. Since it was giving me an error about 2FA, and I have that setup on my Apple ID I thought let me try creating an app specific password. That’s what worked for me.

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  10. Lee HammMX Avatar
    Lee HammMX

    Thanks for the update. The US tech press is writing lots of negative stuff already; as if Apple were the noble good guys here.

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    1. Bobbie Boyle Avatar
      Bobbie Boyle

      That’s f—ing ridiculous. Apple has the power to unify people and secure Americans’ messaging, as well as potentially improve their reputation among Android users, and they refuse to, all while claiming this app makes things less secure. This is just absurd.

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  11. Diego Avatar
    Diego

    Congratulations on being able to find a workaround Apple’s sabotage so quickly! I can’t wait until you can figure out number registration again, even if it requires an Apple ID. Apple will strike again, that’s for sure but you guys are putting them on the spot and it won’t go unnoticed!

    Otherwise, I know it’s early stages, but I really miss some super basic features such as:

    – Quick reply from Android notifications
    – Share content from other apps, ex. Google Photos

    Other really nice to have but maybe not so urgent:

    – Support for Android Auto
    – Support for WearOS

    Hopefully we’ll see those coming to Beeper Mini soon!

    Thanks!

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  12. Little Jimmy Avatar
    Little Jimmy

    Any chance for Beeper Mini for iOS?

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    1. Salvatore Lombardo Avatar
      Salvatore Lombardo

      E a cosa servirebbe?

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    2. Noah Avatar
      Noah

      Good news. If you’re on iOS you already have access to iMessage. Just text the email address of an Android user that has registered with Beeper Mini and you’ll up and chatting with them no problem!

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  13. TJ Avatar
    TJ

    Tried all the suggestions… Still no luck getting past the 2FA error. Are there any other suggestions?

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  14. Joel Lundborg Avatar
    Joel Lundborg

    “If Apple doubts the security and privacy of our app, we’re willing to share the entire Beeper Mini codebase with a mutually agreed upon 3rd party security research firm.”

    Don’t wait for Apple to agree. They won’t. Do this anyway so your customers can trust you.

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  15. Clark Alexander Avatar
    Clark Alexander

    Keep fighting the good fight, team! Thanks for all the hard work.

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  16. TJ Avatar
    TJ

    I’m reference to the 2FA error, I had to log into my Apple IDon the Apple website and create an app specific password. I don’t remember doing that the first time when I signed in…

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  17. Joshua Krady Avatar
    Joshua Krady

    Welcome back! So happy for all your hard work!

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  18. Joshua Krady Avatar
    Joshua Krady

    My messages are going to my friends email and not iMessage

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  19. Mark Avatar
    Mark

    Anyone else getting an error that ‘contact’ can’t be reached on iMessage

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    1. Neal Davis Avatar
      Neal Davis

      Yes and I’m hoping it gets fixed soon.

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  20. Dmerit Avatar
    Dmerit

    Well, it worked then it didn’t now it worked but it is giving the ole f2a error. Good luck breaking down them walls.

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    1. Noah Avatar
      Noah

      You will need to create an app specific password for Beeper Mini.

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  21. Jeremy Avatar
    Jeremy

    With the phone number no longer registered, whats the difference between the old beeper and beeper mini?

    In other words, what does the mini app do that the old beeper app doesn’t? It allowed chats with iOS using my AppleID? Any reason to keep both?

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  22. Cam H Avatar
    Cam H

    Thank you Eric and the Beeper staff for your hard work and trying to make Beeper mini work. I’ve spent hours checking your Twitter feed, reading countless tech articles, and commenting on different forums like Reddit and tech sites to tell these iSheep that this has nothing to do with getting an iPhone. We just want secured, encrypted, and high resolution texts to send to between Android and iPhone users. The folks at Beeper are not creating a security issue for Apple, they are just trying to help everyone with something that should have been fixed in the 90’s.

    This tweet here sums up what the Apple community is about. https://twitter.com/jmwilt21/status/1734110623166759055?s=19

    They don’t want better security, they don’t want better group chats and image quality when texting non-iPhone users. They don’t want green bubbles to go away.

    They want the feeling that buying an iPhone gives you the privilege to those things, and they don’t want that to go away. Same people who didn’t really want Apple to adopt RCS.

    Not saying people have to support Beeper, but the way they reacted to a company trying to bring more secure messaging to all really says a lot.

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    1. Mark DeVitre Avatar
      Mark DeVitre

      I, for one, would be happy to have a special Beeper color.

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  23. saf Avatar
    saf

    Yea, but they didn’t do it by using IBM’s services without paying them. Though they did later on reverse engineer Microsoft Office file formats to sell the iWork suite. 🤔

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  24. Grzegorz Avatar
    Grzegorz

    Myślę, że dobrze by było jakby powstał jeszcze beeper mini do obsługi systemu RCS, ale żeby obsługiwał go od podstaw, nie tak jak teraz, że wymagana jest aplikacja Google messages APK.

    I think it would be good if there was still a beeper mini to support RCS, but to support it from scratch, not like now that the Google messages APK application is required.

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  25. Hunter Avatar
    Hunter

    Mine still very much does not work. Can’t get past 2fa. Always gives a 2fa error when trying to sign in. Never even got to use it with how fast it broke. Very disappointed. Not sure why they are saying it works. Because every where I check and from my own experience it still doesn’t.

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    1. Ray Avatar
      Ray

      It works, I just signed in. I had to Uninstall the app then login with my Apple ID. Only downside is that it sends via the email.

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  26. krey Avatar
    krey

    YEAHH TELL THEM DOWN WITH THE GREEN BUBBLE

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  27. Martin Haeberli Avatar
    Martin Haeberli

    and … what is the status of the (linux) command-line version?

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  28. Alex Avatar
    Alex

    adding a pager emoji, that’s some top notch trolling! Keep up the good work!

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  29. teal Avatar
    teal

    Is there a solution for the “Google sign in error” now? I tried the steps from the support article but it made no difference, the account selector doesn’t even pop up.

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  30. Phoenix Avatar
    Phoenix

    Congratulations on taking them to task and exposing their hypocrisy. I use an iPhone as well as a Galaxy and being able to take either phone with me at my liking is great.

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  31. Alan Wolf Avatar
    Alan Wolf

    Hey getting a 2fa submission error after the update

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  32. Mark DeVitre Avatar
    Mark DeVitre

    2FA failing multiple times, even after restart of phone.

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  33. Wuunda Avatar
    Wuunda

    From your HN post: “Side note: many people always ask ‘what do you think Apple is going to do about this?’ To be honest, I am shocked that everyone is so shocked by the sheer existence of a 3rd party iMessage client. The internet has always had 3rd party clients! It’s almost like people have forgotten that iChat (the app that iMessage grew out of) was itself a multi-protocol chat app! It supported AIM, Jabber and Google talk. Here’s a blast from the past: https://i.imgur.com/k6rmOgq.png.”

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38531759

    I guess you never really answered the question on what you thought they were going to do. Was it this?

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  34. Io Avatar
    Io

    Leave a nice review for an app that’s not working properly, just because I have high hopes? I applaud your effort, but I won’t even use it currently. Losing messages during that afternoon was a nightmare. And I am upset that you deemed it unimportant to inform everyone about this happening.

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  35. Bibugku Avatar
    Bibugku

    Brilliant!

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  36. Bibugku Avatar
    Bibugku

    Brilliant!

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  37. TJ Avatar
    TJ

    Does anyone know what the update is for the Beeper mini app? Was it to register the phone no.?

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  38. Brandon Avatar
    Brandon

    Was asked to do another update this morning but now I can’t sign in. It is getting stuck on the sign in screen. Even tried the uninstall/reinstall approach. No luck 😦

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    1. Brandon Avatar
      Brandon

      UPDATE: It is now working on my end. I think it had something to do with being connected to my companies wifi at the office.

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  39. tk69 Avatar
    tk69

    🤢🤦🏼‍♂️👎🏼
    I hope that Apple can prevail. If RCS comes for iMessage next year, that will be enough. What do some developers think…

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  40. Austin Avatar
    Austin

    You guys are awesome- I love your dedication to fixing this nauseating problem and standing up to big tech for the greater good of everyone.

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  41. Anon3369 Avatar
    Anon3369

    If it still is client side, why does beeper mini say that I am using beeper. Also got email saying that Apple is signed into Mac mini. Sounds like apple shutdown beeper mini and the y’all updated the back end to run through beeper. Now y’all are passing it off as if beeper mini is back client side.

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  42. Zack Meltzer Avatar
    Zack Meltzer

    Probably asked and answered: ultimately, what’s the difference right NOW between Mini and Cloud outside of the GUI?

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    1. Ben Adelie Avatar
      Ben Adelie

      Mini is local, on-device. Cloud runs in a cloud server.

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  43. SSid Avatar
    SSid

    Glad to see it’s working again via the icloud id (I can confirm). However, a few things sorely missing:
    1. ability to send msgs from my web browser (on my desktop/laptop)
    2. on my phone if I want to share a url etc Beeper Mini doesn’t come up as an app to share through so I have to copy to clipboard and paste it by going to Beeper Mini manually
    3. selecting a long txt msg in beeper mini doesn’t show me the option to ‘copy’ it or forward it. I think the popup menu gets hidden due to the length of the txt msg (say about 30 lines long).

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  44. James D Freels Avatar
    James D Freels

    After a couple of Android updates now after the “great snafu”, I can now use beeper-mini again ! With this latest update, I needed to create the apple-id from the phone itself, and not from the apple web site on my desktop. I am guessing that the beeper-mini app on the phone is required because it fakes an apple product and then I create an apple-id. I had an existing apple-id from other apple devices, but those were not accepted on beeper-mini. Anyways, I can use it again. I will wait longer to get real excited this time, because of the AppleCorpParanoiaAboutRCSAndRealWorldCompetition. In my case, this is real because I belong to a sibling group who are all iPhone users except me. I get the “why don’t you just use an iphone” constantly, but this is the ONLY need I have. Lots of family videos, photos, etc., and timely response needed. Thanks so much for making beeper-mini, and look forward to getting access to beeper-cloud someday That waiting list is so long, at this rate, I will not get access until after I am dead and this sibling group will not even exist.

    Also read that the so-called RCS implementation on Apple devices next year will in-fact NOT also be encrypted. So, it will be a halfway compliance. To me, that means beeper app will remain the best way to communicate with apple devices even after RCS is also available. Just crazy.

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    1. jdrch Avatar
      jdrch

      Having to create a brand new Apple ID is super hacky to me. I’ll pass. Thanks very much for the information.

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      1. Ben Adelie Avatar
        Ben Adelie

        I’m using my main apple ID actually – so not sure what everyone else is talking about

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      2. Ben Haube Avatar
        Ben Haube

        I didn’t need to create a new Apple ID. I logged in with the Apple ID I made 15 years ago when I got my iPhone 3Gs and iPhone 4. (Back then Android sucked, so I had to use iPhone lol)

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  45. Jason Simpson Avatar
    Jason Simpson

    If you can recall a little ancient internet history, this is FairPlay all over again. I hope it turns out better than RealNetworks’ short-lived stab at improving interoperability.

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  46. Alan Wolf Avatar
    Alan Wolf

    Will the SMS forwarding option work for outbound sms at some point? Only the incoming works when you turn on sms forwarding from an iPhone but outbound it gives an error “requested user is not in iMessage”.

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  47. Mamab43260 Avatar
    Mamab43260

    Thank you for everything you’re doing to make cross platform communication more secure. Love Beeper and I won’t be going anywhere!

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  48. GiantPreston Avatar
    GiantPreston

    I wish you guys kept beeper free, because i cant afford $2.99, because, out of the US, its very expensive…

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  49. hUisd Avatar
    hUisd

    Letting iMessage filter out the Beeper messages feels like it’s against the point. But either way, keep this app up as much as you can!

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  50. Ben Haube Avatar
    Ben Haube

    Keep up the great work guys. I am keeping my subscription to support your work. I believe you guys giving the middle finger to Apple is sorely needed. They can f right off.

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